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Cpt Advile
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Posted - 2008.01.20 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 20/01/2008 22:28:40
Sooo it's 00:19 here in Estonia and my main char is stuck in Jita...
As I had nothing to do I started browsing google for EVE, as I can't live with out it (it seems).
Then I found this:
BS concept
This is a Asgeir Jon Asgeirsson's work of an Minmatar battleship (Maelstrom, If I'm not mistaking [I fly Amarr myself :p]). I found it to be spectacular!, I only wish it would look like that in the game, but that would surely kill there poly limit for a model in the game, so as an 3D artist myself I wanted to construct a 3D model based on that concept that wouldn't be limited by polygons nor texture memory etc...
So here's my "Minmatar BShip Project": I will try to model it, as detailedly as I can and I will post my progress here, for ppl to see/judge it.
enjoy:
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Posted - 2008.01.20 22:38:00 -
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Current progress:
wing
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:19:00 -
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todays progress:
untextured wing is ready
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 21/01/2008 15:39:01
Yap... starting from start is better, as imported models can be bugged etc...
I only hope the proportions will go right (or I will make em right) when the ship starts to form.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:32:00 -
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Tonights progress:
first texture and reflection check
environment test
details_wing connection
details_backside of the wing
Going to work on the upper wings tomorrow, if I have time.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 10:37:00 -
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Orb Lati wrote:
There is no sense of scale yet evident in the wing. No sense of how it would have been constructed or maintained (this is also evident within the original concept, but hints are there in other areas.)
-I want to build the ship exactly as it is on the concept... afther that is complete I will move on to adding things like ladders, hatches, ports, etc...
Some things you may wish to consider.
- Transparency (or alpha maps) to the main solar panels showing the supporting structure underneath.
-That is actually a pretty good idea, as it would make a large area of the ship look more real and complex... I'll work on it tonight when I'm back from work/school
- The main support strut. Is it a series of modules stacked together, or is it a steel matrix with a armor plate skin? this may go towards how you wish to texture that area to give it scale and show how it was assembled.
The upper panels above the main hull show large sections that can be removed to access the inner areas of the panels. are their any access points to the lower struts.
- If something needs repair at the base how does the crew get there? is there an internal lift or perhaps running its length should be hydraulic runs?
- your running lights are huge and "simplistic", If your going for detail glowing domes for lights is not the best approach.
-Don't worry about them. At the moment they are just painted red. They will get there textures when the time comes.
Final point.
The CCP models love to show glowing windows everywhere on there ship. The problem is window placement and scaling is arbitrary and i think distorts the true sense of scale on a ship (especially comparing a frigate side by side to a battleship)
When you get to that point i would suggest stepping back from CCP and thinking on how your ship is inhabited.
-Wilco
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:51:00 -
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yeah they are grate if u appreciate irony.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:45:00 -
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I have a problem. I need to see the build-up of the ship.
Can someone near around Jita who drives Maelstorm convo me in game. I'm online atm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 19:56:00 -
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Todays progress:
Uper wing progress and new structures
I know the thing on the upper wing (the thing where the red light comes out) is out of proportion, I will work on that in the future.
I also added frames where the solar panels are built on. (not on the concept)
C U tomorrow :p
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:47:00 -
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Tonights progress:
main hull
Today I spent most of my time on re-scaling and because I couldn't successfully rescale the ship, so it would look normal like on the concept, I had to force the upper wing few inches back. That made the whole ship look better.
Some of you, who still have there eye sight more or less ok (from all the playing), may see some strange "welding shadows" on the second armor plate. I can assure you, that is perfectly normal, don't ask about it.
More coming tomorrow
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Posted - 2008.01.24 21:58:00 -
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Tonights work:
Nose is starting to form
-still work in progress. It's gonna take me at least an hour to make it look more detailed.
Good night .P
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Posted - 2008.01.25 14:53:00 -
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aaand here's my progress:
front is done and working on hull
-don't worry about windows and there scales, I will make them smaller, to stress the size of the whole ship. I also did some of my own creation off the concept when working on the nose of the ship, I hope you like it.
ohh, and I just realized I haven't begged for money yet... sooo feel free to sponsor the project (give me iskis), if you'd like to contribute. 
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Posted - 2008.01.26 00:28:00 -
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Here comes tonights bonus:
1400mm Howitzer cannon. The ship will be having 8 of them on both sides. 
stage 1
stage 2
basic shape ready
advanced lightning
...a little dirt
...mix with textures
...add mooar colors
and you have a 1400mm gun
Feeling lucky?
Gun in action
Make sure you enjoy it... as I worked hard, non-stop, over 4h to make it look like this.
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Posted - 2008.01.26 09:55:00 -
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thanks for all the positive comments.
What kind a ship reflection do you mean flashfreaking?
Can't seem to find it
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Posted - 2008.01.27 00:48:00 -
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 Originally by: flashfreaking
In the Pic: Feeling Lucky? The gun is reflected on the surface. How did you do that?
oh that's easy... you just take a standard v-ray material and change the "reflect" color to gray.... that's really all you have to do.
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Originally by: Miss Ore
CCP give this man a job right now. We want our guns to look like that!
A job in CCP woult be a dreamy, but I'm terrible at optimizing, so I would just make you computer more laggyer. I'm also a lousy drawer, but people say I can model 3D models faster then normal 3D people around the world do.
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...btw, I'm sorry to say but I'm afraid there will be no tonights update, as I spent all of my day playing Rainbow 6:Vegas co-op with my bud and I kinda want to sleep. I'm pretty sure about tomorrows update tho...
-you guys were getting too much eye-candy anyway 
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Posted - 2008.01.27 16:43:00 -
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Engine in progress
I have now started my work on the engine. Once again I didn't exactly follow the concept, as I found it to be to plane, so I added a bit more detail to the engine sides.
: )
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Posted - 2008.01.28 21:32:00 -
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Time to bump this thread : )
worked on the afth section
I'm rendering on Q6600 (4 core CPU) clocked @ 3.25Ghz (with total computing power of 13Ghz) ,4x 1GB DDR2 800hz RAMs, and 7950GT (512MB) (soon to be replaced by dual 8800 gtx)
Thnx for info kessah I actually didn't know that.
Don't forget to give ol' begger (me) som moneys (ISKis) for he's work and good night ya'll.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 29/01/2008 19:46:39
Originally by: Akion Noscire
 http://www.ccp.cc/jobdetails.aspx?22
I dare ya!
-Like I said before, that would be a dream-job, but I'm still very young and have to finish my 12th grade and make out with my GF, etc... before I could accept a job in CCP anyway... :( (but if CCP guys like my work and want me, then screw that, I will be in Iceland ASAP!!)
Originally by: SiJira
Will it be pink
-oh, it can even be purple, with bunnies on the wings, it just depends how much isk u want to pay me :p
-btw expect some new pics soon, I'll try to get some of them done by today if everything goes ok (as I DO have to study)
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 29/01/2008 22:40:24
3000 polygons? 
that's a joke it's near 50k polygons already, getting it down to 3k would be like ... nothing you have ever seen? ...in any case, that is a baaad idea.
anyways tonights progress moaar wings and top-coridor sections
Good night : )
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:52:00 -
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...todays update is less "visual", in other words, I spent todays time on optimizing. The sad part is: I'm afraid it will still go up to 70k polygons when the model finishes. I'll try to keep "optimizing" in mind when creating my next model.
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Posted - 2008.01.31 14:45:00 -
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I'm working on 3D max 8 + Vray that's all... btw, atm I have only used paint to make textures :D
Wires coming soonÖ
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Posted - 2008.01.31 16:41:00 -
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not ATM
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Posted - 2008.02.06 20:48:00 -
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I confirm the kidnapping
Nova Fox gets the money
......
anyway yeah, coz my money begging scheme failed I began my work on something that actually pays. I will prolly work on the BS @ the weekend. (mayb : D )
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Posted - 2008.02.08 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 08/02/2008 16:57:11
I heard that you have all been good children, so I'm releasing another WorkInProgress screen of the ship.
Now, I have added A LOT of detail to this ship from the past "shot", some of that you will see right away, some takes a bit more time to notice, but I have been constantly adding detail to various parts of the ship for over 6 hours straight now...
Hull 75% ready
-Thanks for looking!
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Posted - 2008.02.08 21:48:00 -
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Hey! o/
Last update today:
Not to texture this beast would be a crime, so I spent few more hours crating/editing textures for it. Here are few what I managed to complete:
Metal bars
Big Armorplating
Small Armorplating
Shiny reflective metal
Shiny reflective metal with atmosphere
White metal
Glass for 1 small upper section
Windows by default
Solar panels remastered
enjoy and good night! : )
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Posted - 2008.02.09 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 09/02/2008 14:35:11
Originally by: Calimor
Edited by: Calimor on 08/02/2008 23:58:21
Great model, great job so far.
Are you willing to listen to some criticism, or you'd rather pass? I ask because there are many people who don't like, so I don't wanna go :words: if you're doing the model just for fun and don't care about the possible mistakes here and there.
(If you want I can just PM/eve-mail)
-I have nothing against constructive criticism, unless it's about being off concept, because I know about that already. : )
EDIT: Also if there is anything that you would like to see on a ship (that fits there, corse I'm not talking about "I can haz cheezburger" cats and bunnyes), then let me know, k?
-to "Krutex": Well I already finished with these guns, but I will not make that mistake again next time I'm doing these kinds of weapons.
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Posted - 2008.02.09 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: flashfreaking
It might be me, but the Small Armor plating looks more like leather on the the teapot, not so much on the cube though, something to do with lightning?
Great work overall, any good tutorials suggestions for texture making?
-Yeah, that texture isn't meant for round objects and the bumpmaping seems to get too stretched out. Lightning just doubles the fake feeling.
-Don't know about tutorials tho, never done em :p (except V-ray "dirt" one)
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Posted - 2008.02.14 17:47:00 -
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Thnx guys...
Yeah, RL and contract work had me all tied,
I'm working on the BS right now, so check back in few hours.
k?
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Posted - 2008.02.14 17:52:00 -
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...you know what?
I'll think about it 
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Posted - 2008.02.14 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 14/02/2008 21:41:03
how textures fit
...and placing them on ship
The last picture seems somewhat over lightened, but don't worry about that, as I haven't put any effort in to lightning yet. Also this is still far from the final product :p
enjoy tho!
/edit: I see we broke 10k viewers barrier here, makes me proud :p
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